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 Post subject: Supercharged Busa
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:54 am 
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Morning Trev hope you are well

I've a few issues I need to pick your brains on

We're running a supercharged Busa
Running 28-30 psi of bost. Apron 400bhp
I'm looking at adding nitrous
Looking at running 100 Bhp kit

Most people tend to run dry kits, but I'm looking at wet my theory is below
Please correct me if I'm wrong ( every day is a school day)

1) my only experience is with wet both yours and the inferior yank versions
( this in itself is no reason not to change)
2) running dry would put extra strain on the injectors and pushing them
To near 90 duty cycle
3) wet is totally independent , different tank outlet, different electrical
Circuit, different fuel pump etc. so if anything does go wrong I'm safer.
4) more Bhp is better with wet
5) I will loose the charge cooling effect of gas into plenum ( a bad thing I know )
6) I intend either running venoms directly into head or using a billet the
Spacer between the plenum and the throttle body's
7) will be running one of your mini controllers
Questions
A) will the boost cause the fuel to be blown back down the injector as some have advised
If so do you have a solution ?
B) what psi should I run the fuel at, I'm running a high pressure race pump on the bike as
Is but want to run a separate pump for safety ( or am I over complicating things)

C) am I mad to go wet or would I be better running dry then I would gain the charge cooling
Bike is used on road, and I intend doing Land Speed Runs hence the extra
Bhp required
Engine spec
Carillos
Low comp forged Pistons
Head work
Cams
Straight cut box
2stage lock up clutch
Billet inlet plenum ( no space for your trumpets which would be an easy solution )
T44 fuel pump
30/94 supercharger
Running Max Nos fuel
Just fabricating a waste gate in system. So we can bleed off boost to allow v power on road
Any help would be greatly appreciated as always
Martin Bullitt performance
Thanks in advance

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 Post subject: Re: Supercharged Busa
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:55 pm 
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Morning Trev hope you are well
Hi Martin, good to hear from you and yes thanks I'm well now but the reason I haven't made the call (as Janet asked me to do), is because I've had a brief illness that set me back but I intended to call you on Monday.

I've a few issues I need to pick your brains on

We're running a supercharged Busa
Running 28-30 psi of bost. Apron 400bhp
I'm looking at adding nitrous
Looking at running 100 Bhp kit

Most people tend to run dry kits, but I'm looking at wet my theory is below
Please correct me if I'm wrong ( every day is a school day)

1) my only experience is with wet both yours and the inferior yank versions
( this in itself is no reason not to change)
2) running dry would put extra strain on the injectors and pushing them
To near 90 duty cycle
3) wet is totally independent , different tank outlet, different electrical
Circuit, different fuel pump etc. so if anything does go wrong I'm safer.
4) more Bhp is better with wet
5) I will loose the charge cooling effect of gas into plenum ( a bad thing I know )
To some degree some aspects of the above are correct and in general wet is better than dry, as long as it's done correctly using our latest technology, otherwise dry can be better.

6) I intend either running venoms directly into head or using a billet the
Spacer between the plenum and the throttle body's
I would recommend that you use Venom's for the nitrous but use our Atomising nozzles for the fuel;
http://www.noswizard.com/nitrous-ancill ... zzles.html
This is a VERY IMPORTANT aspect of making a wet system deliver reliable results on big doses of nitrous.

7) will be running one of your mini controllers
That's fine but I'd go for a Max Extreme if I were you, as you'll achieve quicker ET's, benefit from a much higher level of safety and they offer much greater value for money.

Questions
A) will the boost cause the fuel to be blown back down the injector as some have advised
If so do you have a solution ?
Yes to both questions, although it's not so much that the fuel gets blown back but that the 'balance' of pressure is reduced and as a consequence the mixture would run leaner as boost rises. The solution is to run at high fuel injection pressure (through our Atomising nozzles) and fitting a boost compensated fuel regulator.

B) what psi should I run the fuel at, I'm running a high pressure race pump on the bike as
Is but want to run a separate pump for safety ( or am I over complicating things)
You should add a second pump of the same type and run at the same pressure.

C) am I mad to go wet or would I be better running dry then I would gain the charge cooling
No you're not mad as long as you follow my advice to the letter but you would be mad if you did it any other way, as the US way DEFINITELY causes detonation, which is why the trend in the US is to use dry systems. I'm not sure why you think there is a difference in charge cooling between wet & dry???

Bike is used on road, and I intend doing Land Speed Runs hence the extra
Bhp required
Engine spec
Carillos
Low comp forged Pistons
Head work
Cams
Straight cut box
2stage lock up clutch
Billet inlet plenum ( no space for your trumpets which would be an easy solution )
T44 fuel pump
30/94 supercharger
Running Max Nos fuel
I wouldn't use Max NOS fuel as whoever created that fuel has no idea what he was doing, I'd use C23.


Just fabricating a waste gate in system. So we can bleed off boost to allow v power on road
Any help would be greatly appreciated as always
Martin Bullitt performance
Thanks in advance

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 Post subject: Re: Supercharged Busa
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:44 pm 
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Trev

thanks for the advice and the subsequent follow up call
Been mad busy but as soon as I get my finger out I will send you the plenum photos

thanks again

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