Welcome to my forum Norm,
I made the following post on the C4 forum in order to set the FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!
Hi everyone,
Please allow me to introduce myself, my name is Trevor Langfield and I’m the founder and Managing Director of Highpower Systems International Limited (AKA The WIZARDS of NOS).
May I first of all state that this is not intended to be an advertisement but after reading the thread relating to my company and my products (which contained so much misinformation and untruth’s),
http://c4owners.org/plugins/forum/forum ... php?127309I felt compelled to set the record straight and that’s the only reason for my posting here today.
First of all I’d like to respond to Rich Eason;
I’m extremely offended by your statement “First thing is that they are a business selling a product therefore they'll say anything to entice you in” which borders on being libellous, as it is entirely UNTRUE. I pride myself on the fact that we provide our customers with the ENTIRE TRUTH about our products and what they can expect from them and I’m sure that our reputation will confirm that to be the case. If that were not the case, we would not have posted the statement you copied and pasted in to the thread in your first post, as we’d just do what all other nitrous companies do, which is to sell kits to diesel owners based on the results achieved on petrol engines, because telling the truth about applying nitrous to diesels doesn’t sell as many kits as that does. Furthermore, you’re entirely incorrect about nitrous use on a diesel engine automatically leading to damage that would be costly to fix, as you stated “£404 is also a lot of money for something that could cost you three times more to fix...” , because the reverse is the truth!!!
The TRUTH is that it is almost impossible to destroy a diesel engine using nitrous and I only know of two customer in 15 years who have managed to do it and both were pushing the engines to insane power levels and were using propane, which is far more likely to be the cause of engine failure on a diesel than nitrous is.
To Big John D,
Whilst it’s potentially true that increasing the torque of an engine using nitrous could result in the output exceeding the limits of the clutch, gearbox, etc., the same applies to all other forms of power enhancing. However, unlike other power enhancing methods, nitrous is infinitely adjustable in seconds and can therefore be adjusted to stay within safe limits.
With regards to insurance, I pride myself on being such a responsible person, that I spent 2 years persuading Adrian Flux to cover our customers, to ensure they were not tempted to break the law and as a consequence all our customers should be able to obtain suitable cover at a reasonable price.
To Ham,
Adding nitrous to ANY engine (least of all a diesel engine) does NOT automatically result in the engine life being shortened and the reverse is more likely to be the case when compared to other performance enhancing methods.
To Biohead,
Having had the ECU remapped and then adding nitrous does not automatically mean the original map expense was wasted. There is always diesel being wasted at some points in the rpm range, no matter how good the map has been created and the more powerful the map the more that’s going to be the case. If that results in an adequate power increase then the remap doesn’t need changing. Furthermore, there are units available that allow you to switch between 3 maps, so you can have your original map, a tuned map and a nitrous map, so once again the remap would not be a waste.
Nitrous does not act as an “atomiser” it is an OXIDISER (which is what I think you intended to say) and as you then say it delivers oxygen (not fuel) to the engine. However, you are wrong to assume that a diesel engine is running at “the perfect ratio” (of fuel to oxidiser), because that is unlikely to be the case, especially on a ‘tuned’ diesel. It may be close to “perfect” at some points but the rest of the time it isn’t and it’s under those conditions more power will be made.
The problem with a diesel (as I stated in the extract that Rich Eason copied and pasted from my website), is that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to know beforehand, how much is being wasted and therefore how much extra power could be gained JUST by adding nitrous ONLY to any diesel. You are therefore only ‘partially’ correct to state that more fuel will be needed (as that depends on how much is currently being wasted and how much extra the customer actually wants) and although that ‘may’ need another fuel map, when using the right products or advice, that doesn’t necessarily mean replacing the existing remap.
Your statement about blowing up a diesel engine using nitrous “Very Easily” is TOTALLY UNTRUE (as I stated in my reply to Richard Eason), it is almost impossible to blow up a diesel engine using nitrous alone. The only way you could damage a diesel engine whilst using nitrous, is if you added propane or methanol as the extra fuel enrichment (rather than a remap), so as long as you stick to using diesel fuel only there isn’t a cat in hell’s chance of suffering engine damage when adding nitrous.
If anyone doubts my statements about the reliability of a diesel engine using nitrous, I’d be happy to bet £1,000,000, that NOBODY could damage a diesel engine using nitrous alone, no matter how hard they tried and no matter how many mistakes they made using the system.
To Wozza,
Pleased to read that someone has some ‘actual’ experience of nitrous on diesels. However, on a diesel car you do not need any of the extras you mentioned; as compared to a petrol car they give very little benefit. More specifically if you’d been looking at our systems you certainly wouldn’t even have been offered a purge system, as only US brand kits need those, because they use the wrong type of nitrous supply pipe. The systems we offer include ‘everything’ that is actually needed to achieve a power increase from a diesel engine, as long as there is adequate surplus fuel already being supplied to it, otherwise a fuel enrichment box or an additional remap is needed as well.
You are however wrong that if it isn’t done properly it can cause expensive problems to fix, as it does NOT matter how badly the system is fitted it will NOT cause any damage and therefore no extra expense. IF you’d been talking about petrol engines, then you are entirely correct, because done incorrectly on a petrol engine, you can totally wreck it.
To C6 Dave,
You’ll no doubt be very surprised to learn that 99% of my customers are road car owners (and not Drag cars) and that approx. 10% of those are diesels. The reason for that is that I spent 25 years or more ‘refining’ nitrous technology to be road car friendly, so they are NOT subjected to the brutal power delivery seen on Drag cars but in contrast, they are a sensible and controlled means of increasing torque and power for everyday road use.
You’re right that an “induction kit” will lose part of the gains” but you’re wrong to assume that a remap can achieve the ultimate performance gains from ANY car, as ONLY nitrous can achieve that, no matter what the engine and I include F1 engines in that statement.
FYI I’m currently working on a EIGHT HUNDRED CUBIC INCH V8 Pro Mod Drag car that is making 1,200 HP without nitrous and will make in excess of TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED HP when he activates my system. We’re also working on a bike with a 50 cc engine for a world land speed attempt that we’re increasing the power of by just 10 HP, so I’m sure you’ll appreciate from this info that I have a very wide range of ‘experience’ to base my statements on.
A couple of final points in response to your last post
We have numerous trade customers who cease to fit our systems for numerous reasons (they lost the guy who was experienced at fitting them, their other business activities took priority, etc. etc.), so you shouldn’t make ‘assumptions’ on such limited information.
The additional power is very unlikely to go “way beyond the safe design limits”, as most manufacturers allow a 30% excess margin to cover themselves for ‘all’ eventualities.
Whilst I appreciate your right to refuse to “condone or support” ANYTHING, might I suggest that such decisions would be better made in the full awareness of THE TRUTH & FACTS of the matter, rather than being based on untruths and misinformation.
I hope my post has informed and enlightened you all and that I haven’t offended anyone by correcting the incorrect statements that were made and as I’m sure you are men who would prefer to pass on the truth, rather than be seen as ill informed guys passing on untruths, I’m confident you’ll be happy to now know the facts of the matter.
For anyone who missed the episode of 5th Gear where we added nitrous to a TDi Golf, you might like to see what can actually be achieved with our systems here;
http://www.noswizard.com/OLD/videos/5thGearEdited.wmvIt’s very entertaining.
The following link is to the episode of Top Gear that although unrelated to diesels, is also entertaining, so please feel free to take a look.
http://www.noswizard.com/OLD/videos/5thGearEdited.wmvBest regards
Trevor Langfield
PS. My use of caps is just to emphasise selected words and should not be considered as 'shouting'.
the owners and mods really hammered me on it they said alot of stuff i just didnt understand to be onhest the forum is c4 owners google c4owners wizards of nos and you will see the thread may let you know ig my car is right gor this if a mod could look into it i ould appreciate it!!!!!!! i ould like this on my car if aslong as it doesnt shorten the lifespan of this car any help much apreciated thanks norm
yah we realy need this unit.. im having my turbo fited soon and larger injectors so i want to save money on the remap and get this unit insted..! 