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 Post subject: Re: Dummy, N2O and 400ccm motorcycle (stupid questions insid
PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 12:33 pm 
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The X-10 Pulsoids no longer have a mounting stud, but a mounting backplate instead. These have a habit of backing out if the mounting plate screw is too tight.

It is CRUCIAL to tighten it back up because it holds the plunger stop and seal in place. However, there is no real torque value to apply to it so it just needs to be tightened, and it is a good idea to add a drop of thread sealer on there to keep it in place.

You can also mount the transducers remotely with some extra plumbing parts in order to fit your bike.

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:47 pm 
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Turbobox wrote:
The X-10 Pulsoids no longer have a mounting stud, but a mounting backplate instead. These have a habit of backing out if the mounting plate screw is too tight.

It is CRUCIAL to tighten it back up because it holds the plunger stop and seal in place. However, there is no real torque value to apply to it so it just needs to be tightened, and it is a good idea to add a drop of thread sealer on there to keep it in place.

You can also mount the transducers remotely with some extra plumbing parts in order to fit your bike.


Thanks for your reply, Alex.
As far as I understand "never use loctite on the mounting nut/stud" restriction is also dedicated to the previous mounting?
Is it now acceptable to use some thread lock on mounting plate screw?


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I would not put it on the screw, no.

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Turbobox wrote:
I would not put it on the screw, no.


Thank you, Alex.
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Hello again.
When installing transducer directly into purge port, should I keep both black and white seals?
Black seal was under the blank.
White seal came with gauge kit.
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BTW, is there any difference between transducers installation place from controller's point of view?
I mean will MaxExtrme gain the same values from transducer in purge port and transducer in T-pice on the bottle?

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Can I use 1/8bsp[male] to 1/8bsp[female] 90 degree adapter directly in a purge port to change transducer orientation?
I want to make it parallel with X-10 body.

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Velos wrote:
Hello again.
When installing transducer directly into purge port, should I keep both black and white seals?
Black seal was under the blank.
White seal came with gauge kit.
I don't recall whether you need both, I would just make sure that the white seal is compressed enough when the sensor is installed.
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BTW, is there any difference between transducers installation place from controller's point of view?
There is no difference, you can use it anywhere that's convenient.

I mean will MaxExtrme gain the same values from transducer in purge port and transducer in T-pice on the bottle?
Yes, the values will be the same.


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Can I use 1/8bsp[male] to 1/8bsp[female] 90 degree adapter directly in a purge port to change transducer orientation?
I want to make it parallel with X-10 body.
Place it wherever you need to so that it fits on the bike the way you would like.

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Hello again.
Can I use this adapter http://www.noswizard.com/nitrous-ancill ... f-tee.html to install pressure gauge directly on the 20oz bottle?
My current bottle has 5mm outlet port (it accepts 5mm olive nut).
Does it use 1/8BSP thread on the valve side?


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Yes, you can use that adapter at the bottle valve. You'd have to remove the 5mm adapter from the valve and relocate it to the tee adapter and the tee adapter to the valve. The downside to this method is that if you have to switch to a spare bottle, then you will not have the sensor unless you transfer it over and that will take up a lot of time to cure any sealers.

Alternatively, you can use a remote mount setup that will allow you to install the sensor anywhere on the bike by splicing into the supply line. This will allow you to switch bottles with ease since the sensor isn't held hostage by the valve.
http://noscraftnitrous.com/nitrous-gauge-dash-mount-kit/

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Turbobox wrote:
Yes, you can use that adapter at the bottle valve. You'd have to remove the 5mm adapter from the valve and relocate it to the tee adapter and the tee adapter to the valve. The downside to this method is that if you have to switch to a spare bottle, then you will not have the sensor unless you transfer it over and that will take up a lot of time to cure any sealers.

Alternatively, you can use a remote mount setup that will allow you to install the sensor anywhere on the bike by splicing into the supply line. This will allow you to switch bottles with ease since the sensor isn't held hostage by the valve.
http://noscraftnitrous.com/nitrous-gauge-dash-mount-kit/


Thank you, Alex!
My idea is to mount pressure gauge (not transducer) directly to the bottle.
I don't have any spare bottles at the moment :)
But I guess, that I can just use the valve with this gauge on some spare 20oz bottle (when I will have it).

I also have a dash mount kit with T-piece, that accepts 5mm olive nuts and 1/8''BSP-to-5mm adapter. I want to use it for mounting N2O transducer.
Fuel transducer will go to X-10 purge port with this adapter: http://www.noswizard.com/nitrous-ancill ... elbow.html
But I believe, that female should be BSP (not tapered).

Now I think I know all necessary threads:
X-10 inlet, outlet and purge ports - 1/8'' BSP female.
20oz Bottle valve outlet port - 1/8''BSP female.
Transducers - 1/8''BSP male.

As far as I understand, I can use any adapter/t-piece with 1/8''BSP or 1/8''BSPT male thread.


Update:
Can I use these adapters in N2O line? It looks like they work with 80 bar
http://catalogue.camozzi.com/Explorer.a ... pe=Content
http://catalogue.camozzi.com/Explorer.a ... pe=Content


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They would appear to work for 1/8 fittings, but not for use with the supply line nuts and olives.

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