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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:34 am 
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This diagram should speak for itself but just in case, the blue is the nitrous flow towards the engine and the pink is the reverse flow caused by the delivery force bouncing off the back of the closed valve.

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So which is best, if either?

What would produce a better result?

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I don't have any data to back it up, but just looking at it, I'd say the second sketch shows the lesser of two evils.

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hmmmmm just let it all out the bag

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hmmmmm just let it all out the bag

I wouldn't worry too much Johnny, Trev's full of shit, ask anyone ;)

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1.In the first photo the Nitrous Nozzle is WAY TO CLOSE to the valve!! :twisted:
2.In the second photo the Nitrous Nozzle is Way to close to the Valve :twisted:

If we keep doing it that way then I might as well put a NX kit on my motors (JUNK) :twisted:


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so are Speedtech Viper and Otzals kits not all they are cracked up to be?

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TrendSetter wrote:
so are Speedtech Viper and Otzals kits not all they are cracked up to be?


Compared with the basic stuff offered by most other companies, I'm sure they're better BUT when compared with the ULTIMATE system design, I'm certain they leave a lot to be desired and the fact that the blowers are blowing them away, :lol: should prove that to anyone who has a decent handle on what it takes to make torque/power.

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In the little time Ive been with Trev ive made some good progress and it is slow at times but I keep pushing and Ive hooked up with some of the fastest OUTLAW bike builders in the US and Im shooting for the Fastest times on a NO-Bar OUTLAW Bike this year (6.99) at over 200MPH,Can it be done?? we will find out this year it should be a good one!!

Are things right or are they wrong?? I dont know because NOBODY has been there but from what I know and what Ive seen there is alot improvment possible on what is already out there and its not going to take me 10 years to run that number and this is mostly due to Trevs products. Now its up to me to put a motor ,Bike and rider and the right Track prep with a little luck?? :shock: to make all this come togeather all at once.


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Now you've had time to chew on this problem, here's the 'current' solution and guess what, it's the basis for all my current race systems and the Spider plate. :twisted:

It's also the basis of the unique system that Ian Hook used on his car to win the Street Eliminator championship last year.

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Anybody wanting to benefit from this advanced technology should use my contacts page to get in touch. ;)

You might also like to know that we're also working on further advances to overcome reversion, so keep an eye on this thread.

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NEW BRAIN FART!!!!


how bout a nitrous injector that fires off the fuel injector signal? :D that would COMPLETELY eliminate nitrous back fires, reversion, and provide a more effective use of nitrous :D


....that thing would need some voltage to be small lol


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xclr82xtc wrote:
how bout a nitrous injector that fires off the fuel injector signal? :D that would COMPLETELY eliminate nitrous back fires, reversion, and provide a more effective use of nitrous :D


Isnt that what your duonoid did Trev? - now there was a cool unit!


Cant see the new picture but my 2p is on the first one - when the valve opens you get more dense Nitrous regardless of other effects. but then I'm a beginner please educate me!

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xclr82xtc wrote:
NEW BRAIN FART!!!!


how bout a nitrous injector that fires off the fuel injector signal? :D that would COMPLETELY eliminate nitrous back fires, reversion, and provide a more effective use of nitrous :D


....that thing would need some voltage to be small lol

Already in prototype form and half fitted to my test car.
You'll learn more about ALL my advanced concepts on this thread;
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Isnt that what your duonoid did Trev?
Unfortunately not but it did have a number of beneficial features that no other solenoid has.

- now there was a cool unit!
Agreed and still YEARS ahead of its time.

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im slow :beatstick: :omgrofl: but thats cool as hell its already been worked on! would elminate these melted motors that run sequntial injection


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xclr82xtc wrote:
im slow :beatstick: :omgrofl: but thats cool as hell its already been worked on! would elminate these melted motors that run sequntial injection

What melted sequential injection motors ?
Timed injection is primarily for reversion prevention, we don't have problems dedicated to sequential injection........

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Loopy wrote:
What melted sequential injection motors ?
Timed injection is primarily for reversion prevention, we don't have problems dedicated to sequential injection........
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couple guys on other site used sequential injection on the bikes instead of batch injection and melted the motors. both were using BIG shots...


they also tried to do it with a dry shot... :beatstick: (umm...duh...)


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xclr82xtc wrote:
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What melted sequential injection motors ?
Timed injection is primarily for reversion prevention, we don't have problems dedicated to sequential injection........
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couple guys on other site used sequential injection on the bikes instead of batch injection and melted the motors. both were using BIG shots...


they also tried to do it with a dry shot... :beatstick: (umm...duh...)

Not the brightest guys based on those examples, so I'd guess they'd still have had problems whatever they did with nitrous, which is hardly surprising while ever they use US generic shit.

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xclr82xtc wrote:
couple guys on other site used sequential injection on the bikes instead of batch injection and melted the motors. both were using BIG shots...
they also tried to do it with a dry shot... :beatstick: (umm...duh...)

Sequential isn't exactly rare these days, a lot of the cars on here or at any given RWB will be running it.
However, most if not all revert back to batch at WOT.
Even if they didn't I can't immediately think of any problems caused specifically by it.

Nothing theoretically wrong with a dry shot done right ;)
But since i can only assume this was while using A.N.Other nitrous system manufacturer that proviso goes out of the window.
(Been there, worn the t shirt, got the video)

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