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 Post subject: Re: Why other nozzles don't work as well as Crossfires
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:14 pm 
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And it's a demo of how bad everybody's FAVORITE brand is! :omgrofl:


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:03 pm 
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I've updated most of the posts above (reinstating the pictures etc.) and where I've edited the text I've changed it to green.

I've still got to dig out the original picture but for now here's some pictures (top view to show fan shape and side view to show depth), showing the nitrous flow from our LATEST Crossfire X2, that we'll be launching in a couple of weeks.

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As you should be able to see from these pictures (especially if you compare the side view with the side view of the Fogger nozzle in a previous post), not only is the width of the plume vastly wider but also the DEPTH is MUCH MORE.
Add to that the MUCH GREATER DENSITY of the WON plume and it should be obvious to anyone with at least one brain cell, that the WON nozzle is going to disperse the nitrous amongst a greater volume of air, than any other nozzle. :yes: :idea:

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And it's a demo of how bad everybody's FAVORITE brand is! :omgrofl:


EXACTLY RIGHT but would it stop any of their fans wasting their money on them, sadly not as I've made as many people as possible aware of these flaws for the past 35 years and they still keep buying the JUNK!!!! :evil:

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Shit, I want one of these X2's just to do some videos!


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Trev,
Does the X2 have the same body (size, height, etc...) as the original crossfire? Perhaps show us some preliminary pictures that you might have ;)
Definitely count me in for 4 X2 injectors


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They are slightly different in a number of respects and as I'm sure you'd expect, they are also improved in a number of respects, which is why the design was modified.

First of all the main body is now a single component with integral pipe retaining threads and made in stainless steel, instead of 3 piece body (2 of which are thread inserts) made from chrome plated brass.

Secondly the pipe entry angles are no longer 90 degrees to the top of the Crossfire, as this needed changing to enable us to integrate the threads, so they now look a bit more like a Fogger nozzle at that end but better reasons.

Thirdly we have improved the flow path through the Crossfire and improved/increased the discharge plume size.

Finally we have designed out a minor potential flaw that resulted in odd ones cracking at the exit due to the peening over during assembly.

All in all that's a substantial bunch of important improvements I think you'll all agree and I get some pics posted of them ASAP, so you have a better idea of what I'm talking about.

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These are gonna be AWESOME!!! :yes:


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Here are some pics of the new Crossfire X2 as promised;

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I JUST JIZZED IN MY PANTS!!!!


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:omgrofl:

I thought you'd like to see a cross sectional drawing of it as well.

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LOL!! I almost burned my toast that I left in the kitchen from GAWKING at these nozzles!!! :compress:


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Only the WIZARD would take care of the intricacies of ensuring the least turbulent nitrous flow!

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Well spotted and there are a couple of other more subtle 'design features' to achieve the same end. ;)

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Trev, you never fail to amaze.
Just when you think the original design cannot be improved you come out with this. The bit I'm more impressed with is the deeper improved/enlarged injection points and the enlarged/beveled fuel exit. No doubt this will result in further improving the air saturation with nitrous and fuel thus increasing power and torque.
I'm currently using 2 crossfires per throttle body with perfect distribution. I can't imagine what the new design will do.

In a world where expensive sports cars such as the new vipers and corvettes using nitrous are dominated by sub par throttle body plate kits compared to the crossfire, they seriously need to be introduced to the x2.

Trev, send me 4 asap LOL


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Noswizard wrote:
Well spotted and there are a couple of other more subtle 'design features' to achieve the same end. ;)



How about the latest "features" in Wood's latest nozzle... :omgrofl:

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viperrt10 wrote:
Trev, you never fail to amaze.
Just when you think the original design cannot be improved you come out with this.
It's been my mission in life to continuously improve nitrous products (just a shame that there are so few people like yourself, who are smart enough to recognise this fact) and I'm happy to include my own designs in that process, as I'm continuously learning more about nitrous and as soon is practically possible, I do all I can to pass the benefits of that increased knowledge to my customers, in the form of improved products.

The bit I'm more impressed with is the deeper improved/enlarged injection points and the enlarged/beveled fuel exit. No doubt this will result in further improving the air saturation with nitrous and fuel thus increasing power and torque.
Exactly right and well spotted.

I'm currently using 2 crossfires per throttle body with perfect distribution. I can't imagine what the new design will do.
I'd certainly be VERY surprised if it didn't make a measurable improvement. I didn't change the design specifically to achieve an increase in performance but based on all my past experience, I would expect there to be some from the numerous improvements we've made this time round. :twisted:

In a world where expensive sports cars such as the new vipers and corvettes using nitrous are dominated by sub par throttle body plate kits compared to the crossfire, they seriously need to be introduced to the x2.
Couldn't agree more but most of those people are so addicted to US nitrous kits, that they wouldn't even take a look at these and even if they did, they wouldn't be smart enough to appreciate the benefits. :cry:

Trev, send me 4 asap LOL
If you're actually serious about that, you could consider it done Hadi.

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Turbobox wrote:
Noswizard wrote:
Well spotted and there are a couple of other more subtle 'design features' to achieve the same end. ;)



How about the latest "features" in Wood's latest nozzle... :omgrofl:


OMG will these guys never learn, it's just lucky that it must be a dry nozzle, otherwise it would be even worse.

How many decades is it going to take to get American nitrous companies out of the GARBAGE multistage rut and into making the best of progressive technology???? They are so far behind WON that even if I went into reverse, it would take them DECADES to catch up.

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Trev, absolutely serious.


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Noswizard wrote:

OMG will these guys never learn, it's just lucky that it must be a dry nozzle, otherwise it would be even worse.

It is a dry nozzle... horrible just the same!

How many decades is it going to take to get American nitrous companies out of the GARBAGE multistage rut and into making the best of progressive technology???? They are so far behind WON that even if I went into reverse, it would take them DECADES to catch up.

They're NEVER going to do it! Not as long as their brainwashing marketing continues to work!


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Couldn't agree more. :cry:

All those 1,000s of customers being conned and ripped off, just so these assholes can make themselves more money and what makes it all so much worse, is that those same customers IDOLISE the people responsible for that!!!!!

Why the hell TRUTH gets ignored and LIES become gospel is beyond me, especially when I've provided endless PROOF. :scratch: :scratch:

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viperrt10 wrote:
Trev, absolutely serious.


And I expect a full report (AKA pics & vids) of your install and results!

I showed my GF your Lambo vids and she though you were MENTAL!!! :rofl:


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