NITROUS OXIDE ( nos / n2o ) advice forum

Well I took my WON installation out for it's first use in anger. A trip to Germany for the annual A8Freunde annual meet (http://www.a8-freunde.com/jgs_portal (That's me at the back in the Audi baseball cap)).

56 A and S8s made up a 1Km convoy for a 50 Km run on the Saturday and on the Sunday the Brit contingent went to the Nurburgring to run the Nordschleife. I got 2 laps in, in pouring rain and scared myself witless on a couple of corners but on the last 1/3 of my second lap I found myself pushing a 911 turbo very hard until the final straight when I armed the system and went past him on a 100 shot as if he was peddling it!
My passenger was amazed; as was the Porsche driver. Thanks Trevor and all at WON I love my 'Q' car and it's capabilities.

EXCELLENT stuff!!!!

So not the conditions for that sub 10 lap then

One of these days we ought to do a WON trip there - before it closes.

lassen die Deutschen bekommen die nitrosen Wirkung..... go on translate that

Actually the German air fighter pilots were the first ones to use nitrous to good effect in their Messerschmidt BF109`s and Focke Wulf 190`s during WWII.

When a German fighter pilot got himself into trouble during an airfight against the allied airforces, he would press a button and presto chargo, an extra 300-500 bhp was at his disposal, aimed the nose of the aircraft upwards and disappeared into the clouds.

The allied pilots sometimes mistakenly claimed a victory when they saw smoke coming from the German plane, but that was the overrich condition from the nitrous setup.

great info there paul i knew about the planes but not the smoke story...so the germans secret weopon was herr trevor langfield

From the books I've read it seems Germany, America and Britain ALL used nitrous oxide on planes in the 2nd WW.

It was first used to compensate for lack of oxygen at altitude on bombers, so they could fly high enough to avoid the problems of lower level flight. It was soon discovered that as the planes descended while the nitrous was still active, that performance increased. It didn't take long for them to realise that it would be handy to have such a boost on fighter planes but far from making them run rich it made them run lean and melt their engines, which would cause them to smoke badly.
It usually saved their lives (by accelerating them out of harms way and by misleading the enemy in to thinking it was going down), so a partially melted engine was a small price to pay and the engine was usually still able to limp back to base.

FYI the FIRST people to use nitrous oxide on an engine was Ricardo Consultants, who are one of the biggest R&D companies in the world and that was carried out on a BIG single cylinder engine back in 1920 ish.

One of my proudest achievements was to be commissioned by Ricardo to carry out a TOP SECRET project (at their HUGE premises), where I was acknowledged as the foremost authority on the subject.

This is the company's web site;

http://www.ricardo.com/en-gb/About-Ricardo/Our-History/

ha, had an arguement with a lad on the skyline frum to this end, he told me i was wrong about nitrous use in the war and they were never subsequently developed and hence its outdated! he said the allies used blowers instead, i said the nitrous wasnt used for performance, but to offset the air density at altitude

the tit, told him he was wrong, but couldnt be arsed arguing anymore!

i know it was to make us think the german planes were hit

It was actually a very serious project.

Back then the UK was having to deal with the IRA terrorists and there had just been a terrible situation where a couple of plain clothed military had been discovered by the IRA in an unmarked car and had been chased, trapped, dragged out of the car and killed.

The Ministry of Defence (MOD) wanted to provide the guys doing that job with the power to evade capture but it couldn't be in the OBVIOUS form of a monster V8 or a blown or turbo'd job, as it draw attention on the streets of Belfast etc.

I was asked to design and fit a system to a Ford Mondeo (I believe it was) that made an extra 50 BHP and on the first attempt it made exactly 51 BHP which AMAZED the tech guys there.

I sold just 3 kits on the bases of that result (had hoped for more) but I hope they helped to save some lives.

I was also commissioned by another MOD supplier to enhance the power of an unmanned spy plane for take off from short air strips. The engine was a 2 stroke that over heated and seized up when the required power was made using NA tuning but I once again at the first attempt made exactly the required power WITHOUT the engine seizing.

Unfortunately they decided that the weight penalty of carrying the nitrous was bigger than the benefit of the extra power and decided to fit a bigger engine instead.

That sounds very much like the incident that was caught on camara trev.. it showed as you say two special officers in a unmarked car observing a ira funeral i think...they were spotted and the mob started attacking them, they fired into the air but to no avail, shocking

Yes that was the incident although it wasn't 'exactly' as you've reported it but as you say the end result was terrible, so you can imagine how pleased I was to be in a position to help prevent a repeat.

I don't know exactly what the 3 systems I supplied were used for (although I do know the original intention for the testing was as I described earlier) but I was told at a later date that they did their job and the MOD was happy with the results - this info came from Ricardo.

lol

leave the Germans get the nitrosen effect

Online translators don´t work very well.
Especially with the german or russian language.

Even german peoples need translators to talk to each other
Bavarian in south or "Platt" Low-german in the north ...

very true ive tried about 3 on the net they all come out different... kinda back to front alot of the time